tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25149653.post6115196745352266346..comments2024-03-28T13:36:17.137-06:00Comments on Moneyless World - Free World - Priceless World: ContradictionsSuelohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13739011165937473840noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25149653.post-90013178934773739532009-08-22T11:54:05.975-06:002009-08-22T11:54:05.975-06:00You know, this blog reminded me of the Jethro Tull...You know, this blog reminded me of the Jethro Tull album, Aqualung. It makes references to religion being something twisted into the will of man, and how God is something placed on the high shelf in a golden cage to look at, and not to touch. It truly is a sad thing to see religious leaders fall back on their own ego rather than the divine connection that they advertise. Or they, along with their congregation, feel that he is something they have to Wind Up on Sundays.<br /><br />People often use the term "God of"--He is a "God of Love," a "God of War," a "God of Man," whatever. But the use of this term undermines the very fact that He is God--not God of Something, but God of Everything. Hence the title, King of Kings, and Lord of Lords.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25149653.post-79012392465999676542009-07-24T23:36:24.145-06:002009-07-24T23:36:24.145-06:00I am very fascinated by everything written here. I...I am very fascinated by everything written here. I used to claim to be athiest, but I found no hope in it, and I felt my soul crying out for something I stubbornly refused to recognize, I prayed even though I told myself no one was listening. But as you said, how could a beautiful all-powerful God allow such horrifying things to happen to his creations?? I wish I had the exact verse right now, it's late and I don't have the energy to find it, but in the Bible it says something about we suffer for our own sakes. It's just some food for thought, but what if suffering is allowed so that we will seek God? What if one's suffering inspires someone to change the ways of his life? God is just. But we messed it up, and he's just working inside of our messes, constantly wanting us to want him. If we choose to kill, to rape, to abuse, he will not give up on us, he will find a way to shine light when we choose darkness. And God loves orphans and widows, and he hears the groaning of the abused and unloved. Though he cannot take away the free will of the abusers, he will rescue the abused in eternal life,by giving them the ultimate love and joy after death. All things shall pass.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25149653.post-15570666941117561112009-07-23T06:34:07.316-06:002009-07-23T06:34:07.316-06:00"The gift of grace is given to work a mystery..."The gift of grace is given to work a mystery of resurrection in our lives, to recover the wisdom that has been planted at the heart of our human nature."--J.Phillip Newell<br /><br />It is great that you have found the strength to plunge into your mystery, and thus the human mystery. Keep going.<br /><br />HeatherHeather Ladickhttp://www.zeppelinthreads.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25149653.post-47163469168783554222009-07-22T19:51:45.367-06:002009-07-22T19:51:45.367-06:00Buddha didn't use any money, he ate alms food,...Buddha didn't use any money, he ate alms food, he slept under the trees. He forbad the use of money. If you read his original saying in Tipitaka, you would see it. Organized Buddhism is just as bad as organized Christian.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25149653.post-63801861039944930682009-07-22T17:06:38.082-06:002009-07-22T17:06:38.082-06:00How could anyone argue this? You help me strengthe...How could anyone argue this? You help me strengthen my own ideas. Thanks so much for your thoughtful views and ideas.Danyelle S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17704534831603557432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25149653.post-33508948273715486992009-07-07T20:32:54.380-06:002009-07-07T20:32:54.380-06:00Wow, Suelo, I am truly inspired by this latest pos...Wow, Suelo, I am truly inspired by this latest post. Particularly fascinating to me is the section regarding religion and injustice, considering that I am in a very uncertain place in my "faith" right now. <br /><br />To me, God is a term that represents everything good and beautiful that we cannot fathom or explain. And as such, we have no right nor ability to place limits, doctrines or labels on the unknown. <br /><br />The hypocrisy in any institution, religious or atheistic, is created not by the existence (or lack thereof) of a God, but by greed and "the love of money".<br /><br />Peace out, bro. Love ya.FunkyPunkyGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06374241127719065610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25149653.post-10660913023974702952009-06-23T16:26:10.131-06:002009-06-23T16:26:10.131-06:00Hi Suelo,
Do you think that a lot of the bruhah...Hi Suelo, <br /><br />Do you think that a lot of the bruhaha between atheists and "believers" perhaps results from the fact that they have different understandings of what "God" is?<br /><br />Some people, for example, might equate "working for God" simply with "working for the furtherance of positive phenomena". Some people might do the same, but choose never to mention "God" - either because they have a different understanding of the term, or because they know that the word means different things to different people.<br /><br />I'm ranting somewhat I suppose. I just wanted an excuse to say hi really! :-D<br /><br />Hoping your kiva is dry again soon!<br /><br />daviddavidchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02263723390864035276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25149653.post-19088027605536155082009-06-23T11:26:09.992-06:002009-06-23T11:26:09.992-06:00Crime is on record rise.
Be safe.
Everybody, PRINT...Crime is on record rise.<br />Be safe.<br />Everybody, PRINT MONEY !<br />If robbed, give it away.<br />If caught, tell the police, they fail to protect us, and to solve money crimes, abolish money and automate the world to provide free food and shelter.<br />http://groups.google.com/group/the-venus-projectTJhttp://groups.google.com/group/the-venus-projectnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25149653.post-37136367018730026422009-06-22T16:22:06.778-06:002009-06-22T16:22:06.778-06:00Thanks for your words, Mark. Very encouraging. Y...Thanks for your words, Mark. Very encouraging. Yeah, sometimes I have to stop thinking about what audience I'm speaking to & just go from my deepest heart & let the dice fall where they will. Chance is the Very Mind of God! But that's my vocabulary. Hey folks, use your own language if you don't like mine, but hear & speak & do this Message!<br /><br />Yeah, Mark, feel free to quote or whatever. It's all Free, huh? <br /><br />lots & lots of love rebounded over the sea!Suelohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13739011165937473840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25149653.post-2535844548875020802009-06-21T15:09:56.045-06:002009-06-21T15:09:56.045-06:00As I speak of you mas my comrad in the US! It is a...As I speak of you mas my comrad in the US! It is a shame that the word comrad is still in the singular and not the plural but as Gandhi said, whether you are a minority of one or a majority of millions, your truth is your truth.<br /><br />Though my beliefs about money are as much spiritual as physical, I have found myself over the last few years speaking of it publicly mainly in the physical, out of some highly flawed logic of not wanting to alienate the audience or reader. <br /><br />I talk about our disconnection from what we consume being the common denominator to wars, factory farms, sweatshops, rainforest depletion, pollution and general destruction, and the fact that it is a global currency that allows these degrees of separation to be so pronounced and so increasing.<br /><br />But when I read your words I remember the real reasons I decided to live this way, and they weren't in the physical. However, I haven't developed my articulation of them to anywhere near the extent you have. <br /><br />Would it be OK if I took a selection of your quotes for a blog? I would also link to this website as I would really love for more and more people to read your thoughts.<br /><br />Stay in touch my good man, it gives me a lot of strength just knowing you are alive, living the way you do and talking about it in its truest terms.<br /><br />Lots and lots of love from this side of the Atlantic.Mark Boylehttp://www.justfortheloveofit.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25149653.post-10236225299881667622009-06-20T14:50:29.829-06:002009-06-20T14:50:29.829-06:00The point is, Marcy, we see the absence of religio...The point is, Marcy, we see the absence of religion didn't make the USSR or Red China any better or less evil! You can argue whether or not atheism motivated these attrocities till you are blue, just like you can argue whether or not true religion really motivated the crusades. Now will we argue that your version of atheism is better than theirs? My god is better than your god? Athiesm can be dogma as any religion can. Atheism and Religion are reactions to each other. They can't exist without each other. The word Atheism, in fact, cannot exist without Theism. If Red Chinese Atheism isn't crushing Tibetan Theism, then what is? Politics? Money? How are politics & money separate from ideology?<br /><br />If I truly want to be honest, I must say, "I don't know". Call it agnostic, if we so crave labels. Agnosicism is, paradoxially, the very principle at the heart of true religion, & is the heart of all science, & all philosophy. <br />The Paradox: I can't Know until I Don't Know. I can't Live until I Die. This is called Humility, which is lacking in most leaders & followers of religions & philosophies. Once I label myself anything, whether Athiest or Christian, or whatever, I join a dogma club, a tribe, I become an opinionist, closing myself off from other viewpoints & ways of life. I cannot think independently, but my club thinks for me. In other words, I become attached, a person of Possession. Attachment creates the massacres of the Crusades, the USSR, Red China, and US Capitalism. To be dogmatic is to be militant.<br /><br />I am not really here to convert atheists to theists, but to challenge my own self-proclaimed Christian culture, to ask itself if it practices its own faith. Even Christian scriptures denounce labeling ourselves anything, including "Christian". <br /><br />What if you see "beauty, truth, morality, sacredness" as God? If you do, then you see that a self-proclaimed atheist who demonstrates "beauty, truth, morality, sacredness" actually knows this same God, but calls it by a different label! This is my point: we are hung up on vocabulary, not Truth. We are hung up on labels, not the Reality labels are meant to describe. I can call Reality God, you can call Reality something else or call it nothing at all! Reality doesn't care! Reality never stops existing and is omnipresent and omnipotent. Is it not? Delusion comes and goes. Dogma closes us off from Reality. <br /><br /> I challenge you, who call yourself atheists, to ask yourself if you believe your own philosophy. Do you say Reality evolved us from an amoeboid to a human, through the fires of Natural Selection? If truly believe this, you will give up the manipulations of money & politics and throw yourself to Chance, and trust your own belief that Reality will keep creating you. Why should Natural Selection give up on you now after evolving you for zillions of years? Where are scientsists who can actually step outside their textbooks and believe Natural Selection enough to trust it? Natural Selection cares not what you call It, & keeps going whether or not you believe It. This is miracle.Suelohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13739011165937473840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25149653.post-38999735951290510692009-06-20T11:29:55.179-06:002009-06-20T11:29:55.179-06:00Just go ahead and be an atheist already. You don&...Just go ahead and be an atheist already. You don't need a god to have beauty, truth, morality, sacredness, etc. In fact, it is actually harder to have those when you believe in a god.<br /><br />As for the USSR and other "atheist" atrocities, my understanding is that those things were perpetrated in the name of atheism, unlike religious crimes. Lenin just happened to be an atheist, but his motivation wasn't atheism. I can't be more specific than that, b/c I can't remember where I read it. Most websites about atheism will have a reference to that, b/c that's what most religious people bring up as "proof" that atheists are just as evil as religious people, which they are not.<br /><br />I enjoy reading your website, even though I don't agree with everything you think/do.Marcyhttp://veganprimate.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25149653.post-9427047928159030412009-06-15T17:33:48.534-06:002009-06-15T17:33:48.534-06:00"If you meet the Buddha in the street kill hi..."If you meet the Buddha in the street kill him". We must make slippery the sides of the cliff we push the ego off. So that damn thing can't crawl back up so quickly. It is too bad most people can't see how much nicer life is without ego worship. I know so many ferverent Yaweh lovers who don't really understand that it is there own ego they actually worship not a solar deity from the middle east. Great blog. Inspirational.Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08813790327596610421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25149653.post-71527582592549316862009-06-13T10:54:54.759-06:002009-06-13T10:54:54.759-06:00Hmm... I have your link in my website, but not on ...Hmm... I have your link in my website, but not on this blog. Guess I'll have to remedy that.Suelohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13739011165937473840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25149653.post-13430865780472770372009-06-13T10:53:28.226-06:002009-06-13T10:53:28.226-06:00Of course I remember you, Mark! & our feelings...Of course I remember you, Mark! & our feelings are definitely mutual. Not only do I remember you but I talk about you as my comrad in the UK, as Heidemarie Schwermer is my comrad in Germany. I mention you in my website (link, above right corner of this blog) & have a link in it to your site www.justfortheloveofit.org<br />So check it out, folks.Suelohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13739011165937473840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25149653.post-41731290852960235372009-06-13T07:54:38.620-06:002009-06-13T07:54:38.620-06:00Hi Suelo
I've been in touch with you in the p...Hi Suelo<br /><br />I've been in touch with you in the past - my name is Mark and I live without money in the UK. I've been reading your stuff lately and find it very inspiring, and its great just to have someone on the planet who truly understands. I could barely agree more with your thoughts.<br /><br />I have set up an organisation called the freeconomy community (www.justfortheloveofit.org) on which I write the blog. It has almost 10,000 members (all of whom have signed up to share their skills, tools, skills etc for free and on a pay-it-forward basis, so no exchange). I was wondering if you would be up for writing a guest blog sometime on it, something about your thoughts about money and your experience so far. It has quite a big readership and I would be happy for you to link to this. <br /><br />I've read the reasons why you zapped your previous writings, and I've been through the same thought process. My belief though is that it is your intention that counts - if you are talking about your ideas and actions to boost your ego, it is best to be quiet. However if you do it out of love and a desire to pass on your experience to anyone who might find it useful, then I think it is a positive thing.<br /><br />Any if you are interested leave a comment at bottom of current blog or email mark@justfortheloveofit.org<br /><br />Keep inspiring people my good man, and stay true to yourself and your path. Its great to be sharing the planet with you,<br /><br />Mark Boyle xMark Boylehttp://www.justfortheloveofit.orgnoreply@blogger.com