tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25149653.post1500037770787245355..comments2024-03-28T13:36:17.137-06:00Comments on Moneyless World - Free World - Priceless World: Pandemics & MoneySuelohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13739011165937473840noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25149653.post-52775525176096587352020-10-30T10:14:51.862-06:002020-10-30T10:14:51.862-06:00Hi! I find you have an interesting perspective. I ...Hi! I find you have an interesting perspective. I don't have time to read everything now but if you get back to me I'll certainly do that. How would you like to be linked to a project to emancipate mankind? I'm looking for examples of alternate lifestyles.<br /><br />My best regards and<br />Have a blissful day.Player 1https://www.blogger.com/profile/14419123480431727419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25149653.post-56613971825102394182020-09-16T23:42:31.772-06:002020-09-16T23:42:31.772-06:00I think that theories sound nice but ultimately ar...I think that theories sound nice but ultimately are an illusion themselves. Power, results, truth, and such produce results both short and long term. I think that this theory of yours is mostly on point, along with your overarching theory. Though, where it may fail, is in the results department. I say this as one who has had my theories fail. Point being, whether with money or without, in communism, a thunderstorm, pandemic or whatever setting you live in, theories don't really matter. I say look for the truth, which is powerful and brings results in both short and long feedback loops, and let the chips fall where they may. A moneyless society is just a real as the capitalist illusion, just a theory. How about this? Why don't we all just live on a treat others as you'd like to be treated society, which allows money. I think a billionaire in this perfect society would say, "I wouldn't want to eat genetically modified crap, so why sell it to people?" Just as the homeless theif would say, "I wouldn't want to be stolen from so maybe I'll just leave people alone. All of the sudden the emphasis shifts from making money, to just being a descent human being, and money is just a tool for easier trade. Maybe after this shift we could transition into a gift economy, since it would be a consequence of the golden rule economy??? Just a thought and a bit of rambling mixed in haha sorryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25149653.post-68764636089214441592020-08-09T03:27:32.316-06:002020-08-09T03:27:32.316-06:00Just found your site. I write incessantly about ou...Just found your site. I write incessantly about our future without money and how WE can break the hold it has over human endeavour. We also have a plan about unity now. Please have a look and do the 11:11 thing if it resonates. Thanks,http://olivefarmercrete.blogspot.com/Olive Farmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08549057782635503603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25149653.post-58338887585976814972020-08-03T17:26:04.591-06:002020-08-03T17:26:04.591-06:00Your awesome. Rewards given freely, it's bette...Your awesome. Rewards given freely, it's better to give than to receive just like the bird eating the fruit, and leaving the seed for the next person. Your concept is what so many do not understand. I truly agree with your living, but for me it's not possible, way to many issues. I respect your vlog and it's very interesting and very well maintained to future the new person gaining your insight and to educate their mind. What a great accomplishments you have foraged in the open world... What is your favorite meal you cook with the ingredients found in nature? <br />My name is Megan.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12066078172220638352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25149653.post-56023782236947656032020-06-16T12:09:43.835-06:002020-06-16T12:09:43.835-06:00Thank you for sharing these ideas. The connection ...Thank you for sharing these ideas. The connection of domestication to maturity is something I haven't heard before and find quite interesting. <br /><br />I have been enjoying Mark's book about your journey and wish you all the best.R.Boomenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25149653.post-51056252942281408702020-06-03T21:30:23.708-06:002020-06-03T21:30:23.708-06:00i knew that money was the global problem!i knew that money was the global problem!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25149653.post-31165943674972573402020-05-21T17:58:41.564-06:002020-05-21T17:58:41.564-06:00I only just found you, have always thought to live...I only just found you, have always thought to live tbe way you do. Think the same. It will take time to digest your blog, thanks for writing itAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25149653.post-33052134925629198332020-05-06T17:38:43.769-06:002020-05-06T17:38:43.769-06:00And another quick thought on the image of God bein...And another quick thought on the image of God being predicated on servanthood: if all things brought forth from the earth are considered to be siblings, plants would at first seem to be the greatest among them, being given as food for all the others. But what does God make man? A gardener: a servant even to plants.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11919887092383657037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25149653.post-71573457735339607852020-05-06T16:23:40.125-06:002020-05-06T16:23:40.125-06:00Greetings. I have been on a bit of an intellectual...Greetings. I have been on a bit of an intellectual journey of late and I find you are one of the few people in the public eye that have arrived at the same or similar conclusions as myself concerning money. I am a Christian and through a lot of thinking about the implications of Christianity I have by turns moved from being a run of the mill conservative to a right wing libertarian (when I concluded that imposing morality by force was contrary to Christian doctrine) to an anarchocapitalist (when I realized that the state was not just something Christians shouldn't use for furthering the Kingdom of God but was itself a kind of false god) and now finally to disbelieving in both the state and money (which I realized is predicated on the willingness to initiate force to retain possession and is therefore necessarily a creature of the state). <br />The ideas raised here and in your other blog about the domestication of animals are something I am currently working through myself. In Genesis we are told that man is given dominion over the earth. This happens before the fall and is usually assumed to mean that we have the authority to use the planet as we see fit. However I noticed a pattern recently: God causes the earth to bring forth the fish, birds, plants, animals, creeping things, and lastly mankind. Mankind therefore is the youngest brother of all the other life forms (earth being the mother) and is subsequently given special status among his siblings and mother. This again happens with Isaac and Ishmael and with Jacob and Esau, and again with Joseph and his brothers. In all these cases the younger is prefered over the elder. But this dominion, if understood to be like that of the head of a family instead of a license to use and abuse, confers on us responsibility for its care. If we would be the greatest of the creatures we must make ourselves the servants of all the others. I think part of the reason for the old testament sacrificial system was to show us that in making domestic animals our servants we had inadvertently made them more of the image of God than ourselves. A man perhaps could be a priest and be holy in performing the sacrifice but that holiness was a product of the sacrifice (on the part of the animal) not a product of the the man being a priest. This of course culminates in Christianity in Jesus (as man and God) demonstrating to us the way of servanthood becoming our sacrifice and calling us to likewise become living sacrifices, not because we owe it but because there is no other way to live and truly be "alive". God is the owner of all things and the only one to whom anything can be owed. But if we ourselves are His and can make nothing of ourselves, how could we expect to pay the enormous debt conferred on us by His creation of us? We could not, but He does not expect us to. By virtue of His forgiveness of this debt however we are made to love Him and do for Him far more and far more freely than what could have been accomplished if He had kept us in His debt.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11919887092383657037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25149653.post-21151970225636230042020-05-03T15:46:42.702-06:002020-05-03T15:46:42.702-06:00I hear you. Obviously, now caretaking my mom, I ca...I hear you. Obviously, now caretaking my mom, I can no longer live in the cracks - case in point confirming what you say.Suelohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13739011165937473840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25149653.post-83603369297859276312020-05-03T12:31:06.805-06:002020-05-03T12:31:06.805-06:00Thanks Daniel, good that you´re in touch with thos...Thanks Daniel, good that you´re in touch with those guys. I did enjoy living in the cracks -- it was a transformative experience that showed me that it was really possible to live without money, rather than just read admiringly about other people who do it, such as yourself. But I did start runnning up against limitations that got me questioning what sort of marginal life I wanted, and the cost-benefit analysis of going all-out straight away, or a more gradual approach of moving in that direction. Obviously there is no superiority one way or another. These are just choices each of us has to decide on for ourselves based on our preferences and values. But I would not be able to live with and care for my own mom (she can take care of herself for now, but in future) if I kept living the sort of life I did, nor would I want to live with and care for children (I don´t have any now, but would like to). Hughes, on the other hand, describes how his place developed into an inter-generational community where grandparents, friends and neighbours look after each other and each other´s children. In my experience like even those who enjoy living in the cracks would benefit a lot from being able to move through these spaces from time to time (just as such spaces would benefit from such travellers -- in a somewhat similar way as the relationship between hermits and monastaries).Love Letters Journalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03006836317438859035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25149653.post-46564423477715813542020-05-03T10:37:58.609-06:002020-05-03T10:37:58.609-06:00Thanks for your thoughts, Siddiq. Believe me, I...Thanks for your thoughts, Siddiq. Believe me, I've been thinking on these very things you talk about. I myself enjoy living in the cracks, but that's not for everybody. I was just starting to brainstorm and plan on really finding ways to start moneyless community, so anybody could do it (with families, etc) but then a curve ball was thrown at me and I had to start caretaking my aging parents 5 years ago.<br /><br />Yes, I know about Ethan Hughes and even talked with him on the phone. He had invited me to join him, but my plans to do so got stifled. I hear his Possibility Alliance community has moved or (is moving?) to Maine from Missouri. They're off the grid so it's hard to keep track.<br /><br />Oh, yeah, Mark Sundeen also wrote about Ethan Hughes' community in "The Unsettlers". Mark wrote that book after he wrote the book about me to start addressing all the questions he got about how people could live moneyless or near moneyless in community. Suelohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13739011165937473840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25149653.post-31325249769687146182020-05-03T07:39:59.403-06:002020-05-03T07:39:59.403-06:00Dear Daniel.
For years now I´ve been incredibly ...Dear Daniel. <br /><br />For years now I´ve been incredibly inspired by you and folks such as Mark Boyle for living the new story, not just talking about it. But at the same time I have struggled with how to live a life of lusty abundance, not merely survival on the margins of a rotting civilization. I dumpster dived, and grew sick of eating the products of industrial agriculture and processed ersatz that constituted 90% of what is marketed and wasted by this society. I lived in squats and as a volunteer on other people´s lands, but grew weary of the constant insecurity and compromise necessary continue living in these arrangements. I didn´t want to waste my life struggling to survive within the system, and ended up wasting my life struggling to survive outside the system instead! I always suspected that the key to true abundance, beyond mere survival, lay in other people, in community, but nowhere found this outside some transitory zones, such as the Rainbow gatherings in Europe (not sure you have this in the states -- it´s similar to Burning Man but with no entrance fee, each camp lasts a full month, and everything is clandestine since no permission is secured for occupying the land) which, while beautiful in their way, hardly represent a sustainable way to live.<br /><br />So it was with wonder and joy that I discovered the amazing work of Ethan Hughes and his friends, who indeed seem to be living the new story in community, and sharing their lives with the whole world. I wonder if you have ever connected with them? <br /><br />"My guest for this episode is Ethan Hughes and we talk about Permaculture and Radical Possibilities. Ethan lives on a electricity and petrol free homestead covering 110 acres. Our conversation was conducted over one of the few pieces of technology at the site, a landline telephone located in a space that is separated from the rest of the living area. Ethan, his wife, and the others who share the homestead with them operate on a gift economy. The short and quick way to explain this is that they give gifts freely and have others give gifts in return, though not necessarily on a one to one or quid pro quo basis, which we clarify more fully in the interview. Though it initially sounded impossible to me, they are able to do this and support 9 full time adults and 2 children on the site, while still receiving over 1500 guests through their space for tours and classes."<br />(https://www.thepermaculturepodcast.com/2012/ethanhughes/)<br /><br />Anyway, thank you for all you´ve done and continue to do. Your eloquence and grounding in the historical thought of ancient and indigenous worldviews struck a chord in me, being an African of indigenous and ancestry and from a Muslim background, that continues to resonate and grow in amplitude to this day.<br /><br />All the best,<br />Siddiq KhanLove Letters Journalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03006836317438859035noreply@blogger.com